tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post4920487555296608203..comments2024-01-22T12:33:34.115-08:00Comments on Pedestrianist: Where the Riders ArePedestrianisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-233349080127709582010-01-15T20:59:07.701-08:002010-01-15T20:59:07.701-08:00I've updated the graphic; have at it y'all...I've updated the graphic; have at it y'all!Pedestrianisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-61254009410962304102010-01-15T17:23:43.867-08:002010-01-15T17:23:43.867-08:00data are from BART April 2009 Station Entry Exit M...data are from BART April 2009 Station Entry Exit Matrices received from BART.<br />The Richmond thru Ashby # was total entries along this route, PBP thru Orinda same. Point was to aggregate boarding riders in a large service area. So from where I sit, the 'line' from Maca to Ashby should have been as thick as Maca to RR, and thicker than RR to Orinda. I have been particularly interested in these sorts of data because I object to spending billions for low usage routes to sprawl--BART to San Jose, eBART to xxx the disastrous SFO route which could have been cheaper AND better and believe dense usage areas deserve better service. Given that riders east of the hills pay much less per mile and get the fabled "one seat ride" evenings and Sundays in mostly empty trains, I favor a redesign of service patterns FWIW I also believe in 24/7 transit in cities.david vartanoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-8512955820886724052010-01-15T13:58:45.880-08:002010-01-15T13:58:45.880-08:00@David Vartanoff
From the raw data, I can see 32,...@David Vartanoff<br /><br />From the raw data, I can see 32,507 trips starting at Richmond through Ashby stations and 34,185 trips ending at those stations. Those numbers double-count trips that started and ended at one of those station (there are 6,869 such trips in the data).<br /><br />Where are you numbers from and what is meant by Richmond through Ashby/Orinda through Pittsburg? Are those entries and exits?Pedestrianisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-14753598717564370062010-01-15T11:17:46.487-08:002010-01-15T11:17:46.487-08:00I looked at your segment ## but they contradict th...I looked at your segment ## but they contradict the data I cited. So I still believe that total riders boarding between Richmond and Ashby are greater that Pittsbur thru Orinda. 33,811 to 29,655. This is a critical difference because it underlines the light usage east of the hills-- as a rider complained he has to stand from Montgomery to Rockridge evenings after rush. Given the various plans to piss away millions on further extensions into the sprawlburbs, the picture of the urban core usage is unfortunate. <br />When the bridge was out we witnessed the trains filling up east of the hills.david vartanoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-4024279404745563532010-01-15T09:40:08.459-08:002010-01-15T09:40:08.459-08:00@ David Vartanoff
The numbers on the diagram above...@ David Vartanoff<br />The numbers on the diagram above represent the number of people on the rails for each track segment. It's difficult to see the entry/exit numbers for each station by looking at this diagram. So the wider line at Orinda doesn't mean more people use that station, just that more pass through it.<br /><br />@Michael D. Setty<br />What you describe is exactly how I crunched the numbers. I'm not sure where the incorrect data set that I used for the diagram came from, but I will fix it soon. Hopefully the data above matches your expectations.Pedestrianisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-51284851978546705532010-01-15T09:36:11.011-08:002010-01-15T09:36:11.011-08:00Hey everyone, thanks for the comments. Regarding ...Hey everyone, thanks for the comments. Regarding the number, there was a calculation error introduced somewhere between my excel spreadsheet and my email account. I'm not sure what exactly happened but these are the numbers as calculated in my excel spreadsheet, which seem to jibe much better with what you say above:<br /><br />MB-SO 8648<br />SO-SB 19173<br />SB-SS 23727<br />SS-CM 28888<br />CM-DC 35087<br />DC-BP 47860<br />BP-GP 72657<br />GP-24 84413<br />24-16 98859<br />16-CC 109241<br />CC-PL 118337<br />PL-MT 118420<br />MT-EM 133133<br />EM-OW 157673<br />OW-12 97607<br />12-19 130170<br />19-MA 130101<br />MA-AS 52820<br />AS-BK 47431<br />BK-NB 33759<br />NB-EP 27427<br />EP-EN 20181<br />EN-RM 6795<br />MA-RR 73227<br />RR-OR 64338<br />OR-LF 58822<br />LF-WC 52238<br />WC-PH 41268<br />PH-CN 27628<br />CN-NC 16438<br />NC-WP 11870<br />OW-LM 54393<br />LM-FV 84078<br />FV-CL 76123<br />CL-SL 66768<br />SL-BF 55917<br />BF-HY 30117<br />HY-SH 24330<br />SH-UC 19817<br />UC-FM 13263<br />BF-CV 18520<br />CV-ED 14611<br />12-LM 32945Pedestrianisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03067236246319422235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-72535293763272942612010-01-14T13:46:34.923-08:002010-01-14T13:46:34.923-08:00Looked at April 09 station stats and find the fpll...Looked at April 09 station stats and find the fpllowing<br />Entries<br />Orinda 2685 Ashby 4342<br />Orinda thru PBP 29655<br />Richmond thru Ashby 33811<br />maybe a revision in the graphics?david vartanoffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-11565471064492721712010-01-14T13:39:25.247-08:002010-01-14T13:39:25.247-08:00Hmmm... a BART press release (http://www.bart.gov/...Hmmm... a BART press release (http://www.bart.gov/news/articles/2009/news20091030.aspx) says that on October 30 during the Bay Bridge closure, there were 258,200 transbay trips. I think these numbers might be from one of those peak days instead of a typical day.Eric Fischerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17717107532168518915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-43792053844980837712010-01-14T12:50:23.650-08:002010-01-14T12:50:23.650-08:00This chart is way off.
I recall BART stating that...This chart is way off.<br /><br />I recall BART stating that transbay volume was around 180,000+/- riders daily, not the large numbers shown. And there are certainly not 200,000+ passengers through the Berkeley Hills tunnel.<br /><br />The author needs to look at individual station Origin & Destination data, and determine the values for each link between each station. Granted, this is many more hours of work, but the results would still be useful.Michael D. Settyhttp://www.publictransit.usnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4511182286834112345.post-1711763001877967492010-01-14T12:04:42.470-08:002010-01-14T12:04:42.470-08:00A bit surprised at the Orinda v Ashby ##--a couple...A bit surprised at the Orinda v Ashby ##--a couple years back Ashby was higher than Orinda. Would be nice to see the graphic crunched to show AM rush midday, OM Rush evening. My analysis says the Concord line is more highly used during rush much lighter off rush.david vartanoffnoreply@blogger.com